Re: Taking over development of DataViews - Licenses

From: Mike Kienenberger (mkienen..mail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 12 2007 - 10:48:38 EDT

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    On 4/12/07, Adrian Wiesmann <awiesman..omap.org> wrote:
    > The technicaly easiest solution would be if Cayenne agrees in our project
    > taking exlusively (and only for our SOBF Tool) the data view source code
    > (and dvmodeler) and relicence it under the GPL. With the condition that we
    > dual-licence everything we do on the DataViews under the ASL. Like that we
    > could integrate everything without the need to have a separate lib.

    It's not quite as easy as you'd think. You have to find everyone who
    ever worked on the DataViews code, and individually get them to
    relicense the code to you. The Cayenne project (nor the ASF) cannot
    relicense the code as we don't have the right to do that. Both the
    project and ASF can only use the code as it was licensed to them by
    the individuals involved.

    > Do the licence requirements concerning the written CLA apply when
    > submitting back to Cayenne or before? And only if we don't fork?

    Not sure what you're asking here, but when you grant code to ASF, all
    you're doing is saying that ASF has the right to continue using the
    code under the Apache license. You still own the code and can
    relicense it under GPL to another legal entity if you want to do that.

    > > The GPL/Apache
    > > license incompatibility hurts everybody, but that's how things are
    > > until ASF and FSF work it out :-(
    >
    > I never thought I'd say this. But this licencing stuff turns out to be
    > royal PITA.

    Yes, in my younger days, I thought GPL was a fine thing and I did a
    lot of work under it. I regret supporting it now. Do note that the
    license limiting you from combining GPL and Apache style licenses is
    on the GPL side.



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