Re: DataViews - Proposal - move to sourceforge!

From: Andrus Adamchik (andru..bjectstyle.org)
Date: Sat Nov 03 2007 - 14:28:42 EDT

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    Actually we had a similar discussion some time ago, and also related
    to DataViews. Forking and relicensing is an easy option:

        http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/lists/cayenne-devel/2007/04/0035.html

    Whoever wants to work on a fork, I suggest you contact Adrian
    Wiesmann (who is likely reading this list). I think he already did a
    fork and placed it on SourceForge (?)

    I disagree that Apache license as such is unfriendly to GUI projects
    (at least I haven't heard any reasonable argument to back that idea),
    but the fact that most existing libraries converged around (L)GPL
    could definitely play its role as a high barrier to entry. Although
    there are notable exceptions - JGoodies uses BSD license.

    Finally I have no idea why people are so afraid to contribute to
    Apache. There are no barriers, except for the ones that any
    established project would have, namely that the people involved in
    the project value their reputation built over the years, and
    therefore require new contributors to go through the karma building
    process, before giving them write access. I think that's very
    reasonable.

    Andrus

    On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

    > There's nothing stopping you from forking a branch of DataViews.
    >
    > However, you cannot change the license to LGPL.
    >
    > On 11/3/07, Demetrios Kyriakis <demetrios.kyriaki..ooglemail.com>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> Since the Cayenne team is not very interested in DataViews, but
    >> many users
    >> are, the most simple solution to me looks to move DataViews to a
    >> place where
    >> users can contribute much easier.
    >>
    >> Because of it's "patch" based contribution restriction, and
    >> especially of
    >> the long list of incompatible "licenses", I'm not sure if
    >> Apache.org is the
    >> best place to get help from users with as few as possible "barriers".
    >>
    >> Also an important step would be to switch the license from Apache
    >> to LGPL.
    >> It seems that the Apache license is not too GUI friendly: just
    >> looks how few
    >> projects on Apache.org have GUI's and how many good GUI oriented
    >> libraries
    >> or tools are LGPL.
    >>
    >> Any other ideas on what could be done to re-invigorate DataViews?
    >>
    >> Thank you,
    >>
    >> Demetrios.
    >> --
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