Re: DataViews - Proposal - move to sourceforge!

From: Craig L Russell (Craig.Russel..un.COM)
Date: Sun Nov 04 2007 - 23:05:35 EST

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    This discussion has gone into legal affairs and sadly, I'm afraid
    that the local wisdom (meself included) is not sufficient to give a
    complete description of what it means to fork an Apache project and
    relicense it as GPL or LGPL. The Apache license is very permissive,
    and relicensing Apache code is permitted.

    I respectfully suggest that this thread discontinue here and
    reconvene at


    On Nov 4, 2007, at 12:42 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

    >> Mike Kienenberger wrote:
    >>> However, you cannot change the license to LGPL.
    > On 11/4/07, Demetrios Kyriakis <>
    > wrote:
    >> Wow thank you for the info. I didn't know that Apache license is so
    >> restrictive.
    >> I think that LGPL code can be changed by the owners to whatever
    >> license they
    >> wish (if they wish).
    >> I think I saw this on some forum - has LGPL
    >> for most
    >> code there, but they can change it to what they want and when they
    >> want.
    > And the Cayenne code at ASF can be changed by the code owners to
    > whatever license they wish if they wish as well. It has nothing to
    > do with Apache.
    > However, trying to get approval from every owner for the code they
    > contributed is next to impossible in any large open source community.
    > If you want, feel free to give it a try.
    > However, the code that ASF has rights to and maintains must remain
    > under the Apache license as that's the license under which the code
    > was granted to ASF. Neither ASF nor people operating on ASF's
    > behalf, can give you an LGPL license for Dataviews. You'll have to
    > contact every person who contributed to DataViews to obtain it.

    Craig Russell
    Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
    408 276-5638
    P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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