Andrus,
I can provide time for research/programming if you can use it.
Daniel.
On Aug 24, 2004, at 4:37 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Defining GUI tools strategy historically has been one of the most
> painful topics in Cayenne developer community and for me personally.
> Swing immaturity is one thing to blame. Swing is extremely bloated,
> there is no common or agreed upon pattern to design complex
> applications (I mean one that makes sense). To make Swing at least
> partially usable, everyone around is trying their own little thing [I
> have my own too, check it out :-) ->
> http://objectstyle.org/jstaple/index.html ], so there is no
> consistency and sanity in Swing development.
>
> As a result, while we still keep our eyes open, we are very
> conservative when it comes to embracing any particular 3rd party GUI
> platform (otherwise we would've switched to Eclipse/SWT long time ago
> :-)). So we go with our own standalone tools for the moment.
>
> Having said that I personally would love to have a *professional*
> suite for Swing development. The one that works around some decent GUI
> application design model (e.g. JStaple bindings) and integrated with
> Cayenne ORM tools. I am toying with this idea for a number of months
> already, but unfortunately I can't see how such vision can be realized
> on a volunteer basis - this is simply too much work. So I guess I am
> looking for sponsors/investors ;-)
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2004, at 4:28 PM, Jonathan Carlson wrote:
>> I ran across another unheralded, yet possibly complementary
>> open-source project that reminded me of Cayenne partly because it has
>> a really cool GUI like Cayenne does, but few have heard of it.
>>
>> http://xmlgui.tigris.org
>>
>> Granted, I haven't done anything real with this tool so maybe it's
>> not what it seems to be, but a few months ago I downloaded it and
>> played with it a little. I was wondering if somehow DataViews could
>> be integrated so they wouldn't be so abstract and difficult to
>> understand.
>>
>> Having the GUI power of building an ORM layer and the GUI power of
>> building a Swing App that is Cayenne DataView aware would be really
>> cool.
>>
>> Too bad I'm just a visionary with little time to actually help
>> integrate anything like that. :-)
>
>
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