Re: how SHOULD it look

From: Greg Hulands (ghuland..ac.com)
Date: Wed Jun 18 2008 - 12:01:27 EDT

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    Is this for when eclipse goes to cocoa? Is 3.4 using the cocoa swt port?

    On 18/06/2008, at 7:23 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

    >>> I've been experimenting some with Eclipse's emulated tabs on OS
    >>> X ... This is the tabs with an implementation of the Safari tab
    >>> style:
    >>
    >> Not nice :(
    >>
    >> a) the tabs in safari are for documents, not "info panels" which is
    >> what the tabs in the lower part are.
    >> b) the icons are important info and the text is very hard to read
    > Well, I agree, or I'd commit it :) Well, I agree with "a". I'm
    > still not convinced the icons are important at all in these
    > views ... I don't think OS X uses icons on tabs in any app I've ever
    > seen. Granted Eclipse has way more tabs than most apps, but, to me,
    > it just means that you end up with 1000 icons on the screen and they
    > all just turn into visual mush. If it just said the labels, would
    > it affect access time at all?
    >
    > OS X really has NO standard for this type of control:
    >
    > Current Eclipse (totally looks like Windows):
    > <iChat Image(2310319135).jpeg>
    >
    >
    > Safari/Terminal (only looks right hanging off the unified title bar):
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    >
    >
    > Segmented Control (the "standard" tabs -- no close, no icon):
    > <iChat Image(3335195015).jpeg>
    >
    >
    > Palette tabs (no label, no close):
    > <iChat Image(3215055688).jpeg>
    >
    >
    > New Leopard toolbar/tabs (these aren't even really tabs, but they're
    > used like tabs). No close, really big, though this style + small
    > side icon/close might be sort of interesting:
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    >
    >
    > Modo goes the "pro app" sort of style (with their own custom
    > flair). I'm thinking Eclipse maybe should be in the pro-app look,
    > also (given that it ... is a pro app). Modo doesn't show a close,
    > but they let you drag off.
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    >
    >
    > Motion:
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    >
    >
    > Basically we need a tab with a label, icon, close, small vertical
    > space, that can fit inside a view naturally and look like it fits
    > into OS X. If anyone has seen such a beast in any OS X apps, let me
    > know.
    >



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