Fwd: Confluence take 2

From: Bill Dudney (bdudne..pache.org)
Date: Sun Mar 19 2006 - 22:32:36 EST

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    Hi All,

    Noticed this from yesterday on the infra mailing list. I don't think
    Pier's solution will do what we want but it at least gives insight
    into why ASF does not want Confluence running on their servers.

    I am going to ask about trying to set up confluence on a zone...

    P.S. Sorry for the forward instead of a url pointer, I could not find
    an archive of infrastructur..pache...

    TTFN,

    Bill Dudney
    MyFaces - http://myfaces.apache.org
    Cayenne - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html

    Begin forwarded message:

    > From: Pier Fumagalli <pie..etaversion.org>
    > Date: March 18, 2006 6:22:43 PM MST
    > To: Apache Infrastructure <infrastructur..pache.org>
    > Subject: Confluence take 2
    >
    > DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER! :-) Please, read below before you flame
    > the bejesus out of me!
    >
    > Folks, I can understand why you people don't want to run Confluence
    > on the ASF servers (yep, it's a hog, as big as Jira), but a lot of
    > people want it, so, rather than ranting about all its benefits,
    > some months ago I went to the drawing board and started trying to
    > fix the problem...
    >
    > I think that what we want is a wiki that isn't going to kill the
    > entire server when Slashdot points to it (or at least, that's what
    > I feel is the main concern), and that even if it's down, well, at
    > least the content and the doccos are up and visible.
    >
    > I've used Confluence for years now and I can understand why lots of
    > people want to use it, but having to administer my servers, well, I
    > feel your pain! When I started my "fix" I had a chat with Jeff and
    > I showed him what I came out with, and this weekend I met Mads, and
    > he re-confirmed me that I was going in the right direction...
    >
    > So, what's this all about? Well, I wrote a small confluence plugin
    > <http://could.it/confluence-autoexport-plugin.html> called
    > "AutoExport". What it does is that it listens to update/create/
    > remove events within confluence and exports (or better
    > synchronizes) the content in confluence with a set of files on a
    > disk, so that they can be served by Apache (it rewrites links in
    > the HTML, exports attachments, pre-processes thumbnails,
    > everything)...
    >
    > Basically if you look at "http://could.it/", it's all backed by
    > Confluence itself, but it's served directly by Apache from the
    > disk. Confluence uses 64 megs of ram (the JVM is limited) and
    > unless someone is editing something, it's doing absolutely nothing
    > (the only "extra" thing it does, is that when a page is saved, a
    > file is written on the disk using Velocity).
    >
    > And it's easy to install/configure/use... I've made my "sales
    > pitch" for the Atlassian Codegeist <http://confluence.atlassian.com/
    > display/CODEGEIST/AutoExport+for+Confluence> (you can see some
    > screenshot, read some of the features).
    >
    > Now, I want to be bold and install it on for the ASF. I can open up
    > my server if people want but I only have a 2 megs synchronous pipe
    > (it's not a crappy ADSL, but still, it's only 2 Megs). Otherwise,
    > if someone is nice enough to give me a root password, I was
    > thinking to install it directly on one of the ASF's servers (I was
    > thinking Ajax, Mads mentioned Brutus this weekend).
    >
    > My idea is to lock-down the entire confluence wiki to those people
    > with the right to edit the documents (basically the committers on
    > the projects willing to use Confluence) and to allow anonymous
    > access _only_ through the auto-exported content (that's what I do
    > on http://Could.IT , you the only thing you can see of Confluence
    > itself without a password is the login page http://could.it/wiki/ )
    >
    > So, what do you think? Shall we give it a try? I've been running
    > this for roughly two months now, and it works nicely. I'm coming
    > out with it only now because the Atlassian CodeGeist forced me to
    > clean up the code and to make all those usability improvements that
    > were lacking on the old version (template editing through the
    > browser, nice configuration integrated with Confluence, blablabla).
    >
    > Pier
    >



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