Re: Vertical inheritance

From: Mike Kienenberger (mkienen..mail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 01 2010 - 16:34:37 UTC

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    What I probably should do is create a simple project using
    single-table inheritance, point it at a relevant subset of my current
    project's schema structure, and see exactly what it looks like in the
    modeler and in the generated code.

    On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Mike Kienenberger <mkienen..mail.com> wrote:
    > I'm not complete certain I understand the design -- I don't have any
    > experience with single-table inheritance.   It sounds ok for as much
    > as I do understand.   The only concern I have is that the wording
    > below seems to indicate that only two tables are involved (the root
    > table and the subclass table), but any vertical inheritance deeper
    > than two would involve more tables (N classes deep is N tables).   I'm
    > 99.9% certain that you already know this, so I am certain that I'm
    > just misreading your message.   But I figure I better ask just in case
    > I'm wrong.
    >
    > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org> wrote:
    >>
    >> On May 31, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
    >>
    >>> BTW, semantically "vertical inheritance with discriminator" is essentially
    >>> single-table inheritance with flattened attributes in subclasses. Which
    >>> Cayenne supports already, but without any special optimizations for
    >>> wide|deep hierarchies.
    >>
    >> Pounding on this idea some more ... Since we can't get away from using
    >> entity qualifier (discriminator) at least in some cases for performance
    >> reasons, and I hate to add multiple strategies, maybe we do make the
    >> qualifier required and treat vertical as a special case of single table with
    >> subclasses mapped to the same root table, and having flattened attributes
    >> mapped to subclass-specific table. The benefits of that are:
    >>
    >> * No implicit inheritance relationship from super to sub table. It is
    >> explicitly mapped inside flattened attributes.
    >> * More intuitive mapping, easier to visualize attributes, as all attributes
    >> are rooted in the same base table.
    >> * Can potentially handle more than one joined table per subclass, or the
    >> same join table for multiple subclasses, or a mix of single table mapping
    >> with joined table mapping. I.e. in the spirit of Cayenne, we'd allow users
    >> to follow a generic DB semantics in their mapping instead of forcing an
    >> arbitrary ORM concepts on a (legacy) DB schema.
    >> * No new concepts for the backend or Modeler to deal with.
    >>
    >> Now we still need to do some work with this design:
    >>
    >> * Make sure SELECT/INSERT/DELETE/UPDATE work correctly with flattened
    >> attributes over 1..1 relationships, and especially when inheritance is
    >> involved.
    >> * Add convenience Modeler methods to flatten all attributes at once for a
    >> given relationship to simplify subclass mapping.
    >> * Add performance optimizations per Mike's idea, limiting the number of
    >> joins done in a single query.
    >>
    >> Mike, do you see any holes in this design?
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >> Andrus
    >>
    >>
    >



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