Re: Wicket and Tapestry was: [Cayenne vs. EOF...]

From: Eric Schneider (eri..entralparksoftware.com)
Date: Mon Feb 14 2005 - 12:13:23 EST

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    Jonathan,

    Does wicket have built-in state management similar to Tapestry? (i.e.
    persistent page and component properties, form rewind, etc.).

    Thanks,
    eric

    On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Carlson wrote:

    > Just to mention...� Wicket is a Tapestry-like web framework that
    > hasn't reached 1.0 yet, but seems much simpler to learn than Tapestry
    > while still using a pure HTML markup like Tapestry.� When they get the
    > UserDoc rewritten to reflect all the changes they've made, it will be
    > hard to beat.� (IMHO :-)� The original creater worked at Sun on the
    > Swing toolset (don't hold it against him :-) and is a good documenter.
    > �
    > http://wicket.sf.net
    > �
    > - Jonathan�
    > �
    > P.S.� No, I'm not a Wicket developer, but I'm a Tapestry-approach
    > admirer who has�been very pleased with how quickly I've become
    > productive with Wicket.
    > �
    >
    >
    > >>> michael_gentr..anniemae.com 2005-02-11 9:51:07 AM >>>
    > Just to beat on the drums some more, Cayenne is my new EOF.� With the
    > 1.1 version, Cayenne really became capable of replacing EOF
    > (optimistic locking, etc) for my needs.� The GUI modeler is useful
    > (compare to open source ORM frameworks).� The framework and modeler
    > are under active development.� Plus, you have the source code.� Let me
    > repeat: You have the source code!� I've been able to step through the
    > code in the Eclipse debugger to figure out what was going on (usually
    > my mistake, but sometimes you catch a Cayenne bug and when you report
    > the problem, which you can do with great precision, it gets fixed --
    > quickly).� The mailing lists are great.� There is an energy here that
    > is missing with EOF/WO.
    > �
    > I've started using Tapestry a bit, too.� I'm by no means an expert,
    > but it seems to be WO-like.� Has some nice things compared to WO, but
    > lacks some things in WO, too (can't reuse bindings is a big
    > annoyance).� Cayenne works great inside Tapestry.� Cayenne + Tapestry
    > + Tomcat: Free.� Having the source code: Priceless.
    > �
    > /dev/mrg
    > �
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Dov Rosenberg [mailto:dov.rosenber..onviveon.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:52 PM
    > To: cayenne-use..bjectstyle.org
    > Subject: Re: Cayenne vs EOF: How to questions?
    >
    > That is good to hear. How dramatic of a change is it to move from EOF
    > to Cayenne? Are you using Tapestry as well? Have you come across
    > anything that has given you pause about Cayenne?
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    >
    > --
    > Dov Rosenberg
    > Conviveon Corporation
    > http://www.conviveon.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 2/10/05 6:37 PM, "Bryan Lewis" <brya..aine.rr.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > On the first question, I'm currently converting several old apps from
    > WebObjects 4.5 to Cayenne and have had no trouble keeping our old
    > flattened relationships. �See the user's guide:
    >
    > http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/modelerguide/modeling-object-layer/
    > flattenedrel.html
    >
    > �
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > �
    > From: �Dov Rosenberg <mailto:dov.rosenber..onviveon.com> �
    > �
    > To: cayenne-use..bjectstyle.org �
    > �
    > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:52 �PM
    > �
    > Subject: Cayenne vs EOF: How to �questions?
    > �
    >
    > A few questions on the capabilities of Cayenne as �compared to Apple
    > EOF
    >
    > �
    >
    > 1. Does Cayenne support flattened relationships like �EOF? If so,
    > what is the equivalent? �
    > 2. I �understand that Cayenne does not currently support
    > EOPrototypes to make it �easier to switch between databases, what is
    > the Cayenne preferred method for �supporting multiple databases? Seems
    > like it has something to do with �DataMaps. Not sure though �
    > 3. How �can I programmatically swap out my connection dictionary
    > at application �startup? I.e. Allow me to store userid/password in
    > separate file from the �cayenne.xml and update them when the app
    > starts up. �
    > 4. Is �there a hook for generating primary keys on the client side
    > similar to what �we currently do with a DatabaseContextDelegate and
    > our own guid generator? ��
    > 5. Is �there any Cayenne support for doing lightweight, high
    > volume SQL processing �(i.e. For batch updates)? EOF has too much
    > overhead for large amounts of sql �processing in batch mode. Ideally a
    > smarter version of RawRowsForSQL that �doesn�t create all the objects
    > in an object �graph.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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