Re: Using Cayenne with a GUI Builder

From: Bruce Alspaugh (compulinklt..mail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 09 2006 - 12:11:58 EST

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    Sun created GroupLayout that will eventually be merged into Java to help the
    situation. The thing I liked was how easy it was for a new user to walk
    through the tutorial for NB5 to lay out a data-entry form where everything
    is lined up, spaced nicely, and the form adjusts properly when the window is
    stretched. I've coded these things by hand using JGoodies FormLayout and
    graph paper, and found it pretty time consuming. Tryout the quick tutorial
    and tell us what you think.

    http://www.netbeans.org/kb/50/quickstart-gui.html

    I'm sure when I actually use it, I'll run into limitations. It sure would
    be great if I could plug Cayenne data-enabled widgets into it!

    Bruce

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Marek Wawrzyczny" <marek_wawrzyczn..nternode.on.net>
    To: <cayenne-use..bjectstyle.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:38 PM
    Subject: Re: Using Cayenne with a GUI Builder

    > Make sure to use version 5. Nonetheless... GUI design in Java will always
    > be
    > "weak" when compared to something like Qt... it's a consequence of the
    > AWT/Swing API, it is just plain ugly :)
    >
    > On Thursday 09 February 2006 07:55, Gentry, Michael (Contractor) wrote:
    >> I downloaded NetBeans and played with the GUI builder for about 15
    >> minutes (I know, not a lot of time). It reminded me *A LOT* of an
    >> X-Windows GUI builder I used in the early 1990s (so much for progress?).
    >> It's probably usable (that's all I'd say about the X-Windows one), but I
    >> don't know how well it refactors/scales/etc. It certainly isn't an
    >> InterfaceBuilder. :-)
    >>
    >> Ah well...
    >>
    >> /dev/mrg
    >>
    >> PS. I still think I like Eclipse as a better overall editor. I didn't
    >> play with the NetBeans profiler, either.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andru..bjectstyle.org]
    >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:24 PM
    >> To: cayenne-use..bjectstyle.org
    >> Subject: Re: Using Cayenne with a GUI Builder
    >>
    >>
    >> I wanted to evaluate NetBeans GUI builder for some time. Just waiting
    >> for a good project to come up. If you have any positive/negative
    >> experience with it (including integration with Cayenne), please share.
    >>
    >> Andrus
    >>
    >> On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Bruce Alspaugh wrote:
    >> > I hope this is not too far off topic. I'm a new user wondering
    >> > what people's experiences have been using a GUI builder with
    >> > Cayenne DataView/Swing components. Which GUI builder did you use,
    >> > and how well did they work together? I'm trying to find a Swing
    >> > GUI builder that would work well with Cayenne.
    >> >
    >> > The new Matisse GUI builder in NetBeans 5.0 looks nice
    >> > (www.netbeans.org), and it's hard to argue with the price: free.
    >> > Of course, there are many other GUI builders that might work better
    >> > with Cayenne.
    >> >
    >> > Bruce
    >
    > --
    > -
    > Marek W
    >
    > --
    > 2b | !2b



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