Re: Raw XML vs. Cayenne GUI

From: Mikaël Cluseau (mikae..sinc.dyndns.org)
Date: Tue Sep 25 2007 - 20:37:48 EDT

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    Le mardi 25 septembre 2007 à 19:57 -0400, Chris Farnham a écrit :
    > I've been using Cayenne on two different projects for a couple of months
    > now and am very happy with it.
    >
    > One thing that I don't like is the reliance upon a graphical composer
    > rather than a well documented and defined descriptor file. I know that
    > the Cayenne community views the GUI tool as an important differentiator
    > from other ORM frameworks. But not everyone likes to work with GUI
    > tools. Perhaps it's my Unix roots.
    >
    > I prefer working directly with Cayenne's XML descriptor. I wish that
    > the schema was documented beyond just a DTD and snippets that people
    > pass around on this list. I also get frustrated when I find
    > documentation which explains how to control caching or custom queries
    > and all it has are step-by-step screenshots of the GUI tool.
    >
    > I know that the GUI tool is part of the Cayenne philosophy and I am wary
    > of starting a flame-war (perhaps this discussion was happened on this
    > list in times past and I haven't seen it).
    >
    > Do other people feel the same way I do?
    > If so, can Cayenne better support both modes of use?
    >
    > I would like to see documentation and examples that are XML descriptor
    > centric as well as GUI centric.
    >
    > I also think that it'd be an interesting project to look at the current
    > XML syntax and make it a little more user/text-editor friendly. I have
    > no concrete ideas on this latter point but I've been playing around with
    > DSLs in other areas and it might be neat to either streamline Cayenne's
    > XML syntax or create a DSL. Either of these could be transformed into
    > the current XML syntax.
    >
    > I only raise this issue because I've enjoyed using Cayenne and would
    > like to see it improve.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Chris Farnham
    >
    > cfarnha..ra.com
    >
    >
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