Re: Visibility & Monitoring

From: Michael Gentry (mgentr..asslight.net)
Date: Thu Apr 08 2010 - 17:18:02 EDT

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    Hi Joe,

    Assuming 2000 products fetched with a paginated query and a page size
    of 50, I believe the answers are ...

    Q1: 2000 hollow objects are created. Cayenne fetches the primary
    keys of the objects first in a paginated query.

    Q2: Whichever page (or pages) you access in the paginated list will
    fault those objects for that page (grouped by 50 at a time) into
    memory.

    Q3: If you try to filter or sort in-memory, then it will have to fetch
    all of the objects. Might be better to re-issue a query to the DB.

    Q4: If your list pointers go out-of-scope, but the DataContext is
    still in-scope, then the objects will still be in the DataContext
    until you evict them.

    mrg

    On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Joe Baldwin <jfbaldwi..arthlink.net> wrote:
    > Andrus,
    >
    > In this same context, I have a question about what behavior I should expect to see.
    >
    > Let us assume for this scenario:
    > 1. a web deployment with Tomcat, typical webstore pattern
    > 2. 2000-5000 products with an attribute "name"
    > 3. custom search engine built on top of cayenne
    >        a. mostly standard configuration
    >        b. set PageSize to 50
    >        c. using (presumably) default caching
    >        d. custom factory class method used to create a select query
    > 4. a user searches for "guitar" substring in the name field
    >
    > Questions:
    > 1. Based on my tests, it appears that "hollow" objects are created but no faults are fired. (true?)
    > 2. If I display any product data for a subset less than PageSize, then only <PageSize> number of objects are faulted (true ?)
    > 3. If I execute "filterObjects" or "orderList" on the resulting list, I assume the fault is fired for all objects in the list. (true ?)
    > 4. What normally happens to these objects if my list pointers go out of scope?  (Are they GarbageCollected per Java rules?)
    >
    > (Note: I have not been able to get much visibility in understanding (3) & (4), but I think my tests show that 1 & 2 are correct.)
    > Joe
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
    >
    >> BTW, we started on some monitoring hooks inside Cayenne runtime in 3.0 per http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAY-1173 , however then it was decided that it'll work much better with the 3.1 DI-based stack. So this is waiting for its time.
    >>
    >> Andrus
    >>
    >>
    >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Joe Baldwin wrote:
    >>
    >>> I am attempting to do more performance monitoring (with an eye towards optimizing my design & use of DataObject lists and lifetime).
    >>>
    >>> The first thing I would like to do is monitor how many DataObjects are created and which JSP session they belong.
    >>>
    >>> My idea was to simply create a constructor for the DataObject of interest and place monitoring hooks inside. I would assume that I could also create a finalize method to do similar things.
    >>>
    >>> Is this the best way to create custom monitoring using Cayenne DataObjects or is there a better way?
    >>>
    >>> (BTW, even after reading the docs, I am still somewhat mystified by how my configuration specifications control the life cycle and performance.  So I am hoping these custom hooks will make my design decisions more visible, especially with multiple users.)
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Joe
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >
    >



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