Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>> 3. We'll submit the proposal for the vote by Incubator PMC.
>>
>> This will be on genera..ncubator.apache.org.
>
> BTW, does it matter that we are sponsored by DB PMC as far as who
> should vote, DB or Incubator PMC? (the ultimate vote is of course the
> Board)
The DB PMC is involved perhaps more than is obvious -- two of cayenne's
mentors (Brian and myself) are on the DB PMC as well as on the Incubator
PMC, and Craig Russell (who posted earlier) is on the DB PMC.
This might be oversimplifying, but there are two actions that are
intertwined: the Incubator PMC decides on graduation and the Board
decides on destination. The two links you posted earlier show how two
projects (Jackrabbit and OFBiz) kicked off Incubator graduation
discussions. In the OFBiz thread, Noel mentioned that the Incubator
needs to see the Board proposal (because they want to be a top level
project) [1]. The Board minutes in which proposals are included as
resolutions are publically available and are good examples (looking at
recent ones is generally best):
- Jackrabbit - March 2006 [2]
- iBATIS - May 2005 [3]
A couple key things for the proposal include:
- Propose who will be on the PMC
- Propose who the PMC chair should be
hth,
-jean
[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200611.mbox/%3cNBBBJGEAGJAKLIDBKJOPAEAMLIAC.noe..evtech.com%3e
[2]
http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2006/board_minutes_2006_03_15.txt
[3]
http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2005/board_minutes_2005_05_18.txt
> Andrus
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrus,
>>
>> This is great news for those of us who have been following your
>> progress. I have just a couple of comments for you.
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like there are no obstacles for us to move ahead with Cayenne
>>> graduation. The links below are some threads from other projects
>>> graduation "hearings".
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>>> 200611.mbox/%3cAE415EFF-3825-4F8C-AD93-
>>> A513155D73E..ndersunconsulting.com%3e
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>>> 200603.mbox/%3c64AFE699-451C-41D5-9264-CE684D202B6..biv.com%3e
>>>
>>> The procedure is somewhat vague, but I think it would look like this:
>>>
>>> 1. I will draft a proposal for the ASF board to accept Cayenne as a
>>> TLP at Apache.
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest you make sure to include a pointer to your release as a
>> proof point that you're really ready to graduate. And it will help to
>> run Robert's RAT detector on the release if you haven't already done.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. We'll vote for it on this list. This vote won't be binding in a
>>> sense that we can't make a graduation decision on our own. However
>>> it is important to have, as this will be indication that we are ready.
>>>
>>> 3. We'll submit the proposal for the vote by Incubator PMC.
>>
>>
>> This will be on genera..ncubator.apache.org.
>>
>> Go for it!
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>>
>>> 4. If/when it passes, it will be sent to the board where the final
>>> decision is made.
>>>
>>> It'll probably take me a few days to do the proposal. Please speak
>>> up if you have any comments.
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russel..un.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>
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