Just to agree to what has already been decided, I think "incubating" Jeff as
a contributor is the way to go, to maintain a good precedent going forward.
And, I can't wait to see his stuff! I am very excited that he wants to be a
part of the team :)
On 3/24/06, Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> True, our project is different from a brand new incubating project in
> that we have a team and a product. This discussion made this
> distinction clear to me, as I kept wondering about how casually
> people ask to become a committer on the incubator list ... this of
> course would make sense for the *new* new projects.
>
> See you on Jira. Not sure if you are subscribed to the dev list,
> probably a good idea when we start discussing technical issues.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrus
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Jeff Genender <jgenende..pache.org>
> > Date: March 24, 2006 7:18:01 PM GMT+03:00
> > To: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Committer status for Jeff Genender
> > Reply-To: jgenende..pache.org
> >
> > Andrus,
> >
> > No problem here. My thoughts about the committership were definitely
> > not to break the rules of meritocracy, and I surely hope I did not
> > give
> > that impression.
> >
> > My thoughts were the opportunity of Apache incubation where w/in that
> > time period, you have the ability to add on Apache people to help out
> > from a committership perspective. This is a common thing at Apache,
> > where when a project comes in through the incubator, other Apache
> > committers may show an interest in a project and ask to become a part,
> > and you are able to put together a team of Apache and non-Apache
> > people.
> > So I was really just taking the opportunity to take advantage of this
> > time to expedite my ability to help out.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I am pleased you have such a strong community that cares
> > about knowing all of the developers. This is great, so yes, please
> > allow me the ability to submit patches and such and earn my way in. I
> > think this is the best way to get on board, especially from a
> > community
> > perspective...and its the Apache way ;-)
> >
> > Feel free to share this with the rest of the Cayenne team.
> >
> > Thanks for yours, and your team's consideration..and see you on
> > JIRA ;-)
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
> >>> Date: March 24, 2006 5:41:21 PM GMT+03:00
> >>> To: cayenne-de..ncubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender
> >>>
> >>> You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early
> >>> (too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's
> >>> consider
> >>> this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some
> >>> consensus.
> >>>
> >>> Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't
> >>> contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status
> >>> right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he
> >>> volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should
> >>> figure out a good way to do that.
> >>>
> >>> So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out
> >>> well,
> >>> bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira
> >>> patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff
> >>> and
> >>> Jeff learns more about Cayenne??
> >>>
> >>> What's everyone's thoughts on that?
> >>>
> >>> Andrus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly
> >>>> instead.
> >>>> The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff. Indeed, a quick
> >>>> search
> >>>> through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back
> >>>> about
> >>>> a year,
> >>>> show nothing from Jeff at all. So, while he may be very
> >>>> qualified, I
> >>>> unfortunately have no way to gauge that. Perhaps a mini-bio
> >>>> would be
> >>>> appropriate. Activity in the Cayenne community would be better.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has
> >>>> done a
> >>>> pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary
> >>>> contributor, his endorsement means a lot.
> >>>>
> >>>> In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other
> >>>> projects.
> >>>> I just
> >>>> don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up.
> >>>>
> >>>> So for now:
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin Menard: -0 (binding)
> >>>>
> >>>> Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be
> >>>> addressed
> >>>> in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <andru..bjectstyle.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an
> >>>>> Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us
> >>>>> with the
> >>>>> JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that
> >>>>> we are
> >>>>> finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited
> >>>>> about Jeff
> >>>>> coming on board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My +1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
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