Ahmed,
Nobody argues with your general points. Please try to understand what
people say before posting another manifesto.
All I was implying is that ORM, being based on the object identity
concept, can't cleanly represent the report data that generally has
no notion of identity and therefore - no relationships. Does it mean
you can't convert such data to objects? No, you can (and in fact
Cayenne does that). Can we do it better? Sure. Will this still be
"object RELATIONAL mapping"? I say no, even though any solution would
take advantage of Cayenne access stack and some metadata.
Andrus
On Jan 17, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Ahmed Mohombe wrote:
>> Not to argue with your other conclusions (as I know nothing about
>> Jasper reports, and actually feel like reports is one area where
>> ORM is a stretch)
> Reports are very important and it would be even more important to
> be able
> to "describe" them with "objects" not with database tables/SQL
> (cause many
> who customize them are not hardcore developers).
>
> IMHO the concurrence is a few steps forward regarding easy report
> integration:
> http://hibernate.org/372.html
>
> It would be nice if Jasper/iReport would "just work" with Cayenne.
>
> Maybe it's not obvious, but in the decision about what ORM to
> choose, the possibility to make easily
> reports plays an important role in many projects.
>
>
> Ahmed.
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