Site redesign (sans technical issues)

From: Andrus Adamchik (andru..bjectstyle.org)
Date: Sat Sep 09 2006 - 06:41:48 EDT

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    Borut and Ari,

    Thanks a lot for offering help with site design! I also appreciate
    the focus on usability. I'll comment about navigation in a separate
    message, here is general comments on the design.

    * I like the idea of having disjoint content modules
    * I do not like the look of the preview (I understand this was just
    to demonstrate the idea). We may need to come up with alternative skins.
    * Officially we are called "Apache Cayenne", even though we are still
    in the incubator. While we are at it, we may update the logo with the
    word "Apache".
    * In the header we may need to incorporate the incubator logo (to be
    replaced with Apache official logo on graduation).
    * All documentation (probably 70% of the entire site) is served via
    Wiki. So it would be nice to come up with a common look between the
    site and Confluence. Just to give a feel of what's involved, here is
    a Velocity template used by Confluence auto-export plugin to render
    static HTML contents:

    http://people.apache.org/~aadamchik/confluence-template.txt

    * It would be nice to display at least the titles of the latest news
    items on the front page.

    Andrus

    On Sep 9, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
    > On 09/09/2006, at 4:27 AM, Borut BolĨina wrote:
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> have a look at http://svarog.homeip.net/cayenne/
    >>
    >> Most work is to be invested in documentation section. Properly
    >> divided
    >> sections, PDF versions, ...
    >> Also the right side is empty.
    >>
    >> Suggestions welcome.
    >
    > I think this is an improvement on the current site, but we could do
    > better in some ways:
    >
    > * the design should be css based, not a table based design. This
    > will make it much easier to reskin and update in the future. It
    > also makes it easier to add content over time. A css based design
    > is better for accessibility reasons and better for printing.
    >
    > * it shouldn't be done in Dreamweaver which leaves lots of ugly
    > javascript behind
    >
    > * I don't like navigation which runs in several directions on the
    > site. Here we have primary navigation running across from the top
    > left, which is limiting in its ability to expand to add new items.
    > Then navigation at the top right which also runs across, but to the
    > left, and finally navigation on the right which runs vertically.
    > The problems I have are:
    >
    > - why are there three sets of navigation?
    > - what happens as we want to add navigation to levels 2 and 3 and
    > they collide in the middle on small screens?
    > - what happens on small screens when you can't see the navigation
    > to the right?
    >
    >
    > I'd like to work with Borut and the advances he has made, and
    > furthermore to sponsor our graphic designer to work on the design
    > with us and the community. His work can be seen here: http://
    > www.brucemartin.net/
    >
    >
    > Cheers
    > Ari Maniatis
    >
    >
    >
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