Am 23.03.2004 um 05:53 schrieb Ashley Aitken:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Yes, the problem is I am trying to move away from Apple's development
> tools (XCode) particularly, which lacks considerably in its support for
> Java development (over Objective-C development) and even more in
> comparison to other commercial IDEs (eg no refactoring support).
>
> Further Java client development in Interface Builder is really somewhat
> of a (n impressive) hack. As you probably know, Interface Builder is
> primarily for building NIB-based interfaces that employ the Cocoa
> widget
> set. It's amazing they can even make it do Java GUI development.
>
> Also, the Java GUI development is a bit convoluted (from my experience)
> when you move outside the widgets supported by Interface Builder (it
> only maps a subset of its widgets to Java widgets), and has more
> limited
> support for the rest of the Java widgets.
>
> It is also doing code generation.
>
> I would prefer to use one IDE (eg Eclipse) or an IDE tailored to Java
> development (eg JBuilder).
>
> I hope that makes it clear, your question was a good one though.
>
> Cheers,
> Ashley.
>
> PS And, no, using Eclipse doesn't preclude using Interface Builder,
> although IB works best with XCode for full (ie all tier) Java client
> Web
> applications.
If you think we should add something to WOLips. Add a feature request:
Ulrich
>
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>>>> Mark Morris <mark..ac.com> 03/23/04 3:34 AM >>>
> I just know I'm missing something obvious in your question, but isn't
> the GUI builder for Java Client (not D2JC) just Interface Builder,
> which
> comes with the Mac OS X Developer Tools? Does using Eclipse preclude
> its use?
>
> (Sorry if I'm missing the point. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 03:00AM, Ashley Aitken
> <aitken..bs.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> Howdy All,
>>
>> I trust this is not off topic.
>>
>> I am moving to Eclipse for the WebObjects server app. However, I am a
>> little confused about what to do for the Java client application (not
>> D2JC).
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a good GUI Builder plugin for Eclipse?
>>
>> I've checked out a few at the Eclipse plugins site but they seem to be
>> either be commercial or open source beta quality (ie nothing like the
>> quality of Eclipse itself, or WOLips).
>>
>> The alternative is to use something like the free version of JBuilder
>> for the Java client application, but I hesitate to stretch to another
>> IDE (although I have some experience with JBuilder).
>>
>> Any suggestions or pointers most appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ashley Aitken.
>>
>>
>>
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