Hi Ahmed,
I think you are still missing or ignoring the point of my earlier
posts. I do not argue with your ideas, in fact I agree with most of
them. It is just that I know our limitations and do not want to loose
development focus.
IMO the best way to achieve goals that you outlined is to work
together on CayenneModeler plugin architecture, decoupling the core
Cayenne persistence engine from important, yet independent and
external things such as DataViews. This is the only way we can scale
our open source development effort. Growing all the GUI features
inside a single monolithic project is not realistic anymore.
Andrus
On Dec 4, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Ahmed Mohombe wrote:
>> I am afraid you are on your own with DataViews
> That's very said :(.
> IMHO DataViews look very nice and promising.
> I saw in many projects a similar UI like the one DataViews is
> supposed to "produce",
> but always completely made by hand and with lots of effort.
> If DVModeler could be a little improved, it would be a pretty
> productive tool for many scenarios.
>
>> http://www.objectstyle.org/cayenne/lists/cayenne-user/
>> 2005/11/0088.html
> As I said, in the replying thread for the above, DataViews
> (especially the idea of the DVModeler) looks like something that
> could be used not to "produce" data views only for Swing but for other
> frameworks too (especially web based).
> There are many frameworks that generate complete CRUD, but these
> "CRUD" views are very poor, and
> would need lot of customization. Instead of customizing the
> generated code, with DVModeler one could
> optimize "what to generate/produce".
> IMHO this way, with such a DVModeler(maybe integrated into the
> Modeler), many more projects would
> use Cayenne as a default ORM (as all the people I know, use Cayenne
> only because of the Modeler, so
> more productive and better tools, would attract more users).
>
> I asked at that time if this approach would make sense, or I'm
> overseeing something that's evident for everybody else with this
> approach. I would be still very glad to get an answer that would
> enlighten me :).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ahmed.
>
>
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