Thanks ;-) I look forward to helping out.
Jeff
Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> True, our project is different from a brand new incubating project in
> that we have a team and a product. This discussion made this distinction
> clear to me, as I kept wondering about how casually people ask to become
> a committer on the incubator list ... this of course would make sense
> for the *new* new projects.
>
> See you on Jira. Not sure if you are subscribed to the dev list,
> probably a good idea when we start discussing technical issues.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrus
>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Jeff Genender <jgenende..pache.org>
>> Date: March 24, 2006 7:18:01 PM GMT+03:00
>> To: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Committer status for Jeff Genender
>> Reply-To: jgenende..pache.org
>>
>> Andrus,
>>
>> No problem here. My thoughts about the committership were definitely
>> not to break the rules of meritocracy, and I surely hope I did not give
>> that impression.
>>
>> My thoughts were the opportunity of Apache incubation where w/in that
>> time period, you have the ability to add on Apache people to help out
>> from a committership perspective. This is a common thing at Apache,
>> where when a project comes in through the incubator, other Apache
>> committers may show an interest in a project and ask to become a part,
>> and you are able to put together a team of Apache and non-Apache people.
>> So I was really just taking the opportunity to take advantage of this
>> time to expedite my ability to help out.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I am pleased you have such a strong community that cares
>> about knowing all of the developers. This is great, so yes, please
>> allow me the ability to submit patches and such and earn my way in. I
>> think this is the best way to get on board, especially from a community
>> perspective...and its the Apache way ;-)
>>
>> Feel free to share this with the rest of the Cayenne team.
>>
>> Thanks for yours, and your team's consideration..and see you on JIRA ;-)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
>>>> Date: March 24, 2006 5:41:21 PM GMT+03:00
>>>> To: cayenne-de..ncubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender
>>>>
>>>> You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early
>>>> (too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's consider
>>>> this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some
>>>> consensus.
>>>>
>>>> Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't
>>>> contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status
>>>> right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he
>>>> volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should
>>>> figure out a good way to do that.
>>>>
>>>> So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out well,
>>>> bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira
>>>> patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff and
>>>> Jeff learns more about Cayenne??
>>>>
>>>> What's everyone's thoughts on that?
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly
>>>>> instead.
>>>>> The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff. Indeed, a quick search
>>>>> through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back about
>>>>> a year,
>>>>> show nothing from Jeff at all. So, while he may be very qualified, I
>>>>> unfortunately have no way to gauge that. Perhaps a mini-bio would be
>>>>> appropriate. Activity in the Cayenne community would be better.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has
>>>>> done a
>>>>> pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary
>>>>> contributor, his endorsement means a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other projects.
>>>>> I just
>>>>> don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up.
>>>>>
>>>>> So for now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Menard: -0 (binding)
>>>>>
>>>>> Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be
>>>>> addressed
>>>>> in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <andru..bjectstyle.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an
>>>>>> Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us with the
>>>>>> JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that we are
>>>>>> finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited about Jeff
>>>>>> coming on board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My +1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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